Oh, God.Well, fair enough. Let's consider that point by point, shall we? Remember, don't take this personally; I argue with all my friends. If I didn't like you, I'd be ignoring you right now.
Dude: he knows what people will say: Dem = gun taker. You keep spreading the same old rhetoric, so much that when a guy says point-blank (shooting pun!)“If you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it,’ you try to rewrite it in your head. "He said A; it must, MUST mean B."
That old crap again, and you're gonna go vote on this one issue and then we get 4 more years of Dubya.
“If you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it,’. Pretty simple. If he lies, no one will ever vote Dem again. Republicans lie all the time- 'no new taxes', 'mission accomplished'- and NO ONE ever hears a peep from you guys about that.
We can debate which person with what documents should be allowed to buy which gun after which waiting period. But when he says, “If you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it,’ and you assume he means the opposite, that's kind of...are there types of people you believe more readily than others? Take 'liberal' and Dem and progressive off the table, think about it again.
So Obama knows that people will say "Dem=gun taker." Why would people say that? Your implication seems to be that it's not true, but on the national level, it generally is. Who wrote the assault weapons ban? Who called for registration? Who sent the BATF out to shut down as many dealers as possible? Who tried to end "kitchen table" FFL's who sold out of their homes? Who's in charge in the most anti-gun urban centers in the country? Who sponsors bills to register all guns? To ban handguns? Who sponsors bills to ban rifles with "shoulder things that go up?"
Those would be Democrats. I'm not a Democrat-vs.-Republican guy; my state rep and senator are Democrats. One's as fanatical as a professional politician can get in favor of gun rights; the other is pragmatic enough to go along with her downstate constituents.
But Barry has a bigger problem. He's not called a gun-grabber simply because he's a Democrat. He's called a gun-grabber because he has always, consistently, favored restrictions on gun rights.
- He favored a complete ban on all handguns. If he had his way, you wouldn't own any of the guns you proudly listed in your post.
- He likes Chicago's "registration" scheme, in which it is illegal to own an unregistered handgun and simultaneously impossible to register a handgun. He loves people like Daley, Meeks, and Blagojevich (at least when his poll numbers were higher.)
- He wanted to shut down every gun shop within a five-mile radius of a school or park. You can take a map of just about any city, draw a few circles and realize what that means. If he didn't know, then either he was an idiot or he was paying zero attention to the laws he was writing--laws that would have put good people out of business and denied a fundamental human right. If he did know, then that's pretty underhanded.
Republicans lie "and NO ONE ever hears a peep from you guys about that."? Really? Who is "you guys?"
Have you ever heard of Mark Kirk? Bloomberg? Abramoff? Cunningham? I could sit here and list 'em off all night, but I think my point is clear. You can't seriously think Obama is going to get a pass on trying to squish my way of life out of existence because other politicians lie, too.
You may not realize that I've sat in the committee rooms with this guy. I've listened to him discuss specific bills on the table in Illinois, and he was either clueless or lying. At first, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and considered him ignorant but teachable--and even then, his charisma was clear. But time will tell, and it told on him. He looked us in the eye and lied to us to get anti-gun bills out to the floor without having to deal with the bad press of doing it in front of hundreds of angry gun owners. You can't trust him and you can't believe him.
I don't trust McCain either, or Palin for that matter, but if they win, they owe me instead of the Joyce Foundation.